Well, think about it this way. There's 12 new characters and each would have been about $5 each, so that's already more than $40. On top of that, we're also getting those new stages (yeah, I know most are just alternate versions of others, but still...) and all those balance changes. Plus, spectator mode. In my opinion, it's totally worth the $40, especially since I already bought Jill and Shuma and if you buy them for normal MvC3 you already have them for Ultimate.
How dare you attempt to justify the bastards. This game isn't worth the 100 dollars of both mvc3 and umvc3. This game is not worth the 60 dollars for mvc3. This game is not worth the 40 dollars that umvc3 will be sold for. I'v downloaded freakin loli doujin fighters that were ten times better then this game FOR FREE.
In fact, I'd rather play Mugen competitively honestly. This game is just so shallow, it has nothing going for it beyond basic high/low left/right reflex based play. And while that kind of twitch gameplay can be fun, I can think of tons of games that have the same thing only with much more depth, execution, and strategy. Not too mention a faster pace and much more intelligent move set design. The only reason I'd think of playing this game or getting Umvc3 for is MAYBE to mess around with Arthur and a few other characters I like.
Also I know what some people who may read this will think "lol he says other games have faster pace. this game is faster then mvc2 lol you can cancel moves before you can even see them." No. How fast you can cancel or how fast you can dash does not make a fast paced fighter, that's the same fucking argument Blazblue scrubs make when they attempt to argue against the game being slower then Guilty Gear. Mvc3 is really, really slow compared to mvc2. Hell, freaking tvc and the mvc1 trilogy were faster games. How "fast" a fighters pace is is about the little things like blockstun, hit stun, and the amount of input the game requires. Mvc3 has ten times as much blockstun as Mvc2 ever had, resulting in much, much slower and less fluid blockstrings and overall combat. It has 100 times more hitstun then mvc2 or any other game in the series ever had, resulting in every time someone lands a 2a the game breaks to a halt while the other player dials in a generic easy mode combo that does 50% over the next 20 seconds. And the "I can cancel shit uber fast" actually takes out half the input in the game and lets you get what you want just by mashing your controller, resulting in a lot less input, and a lot less action. Mvc3 just gives the illusion of a faster experience so that you watch a video and think it looks really fast while meanwhile the scrubs and casuals are able to handle the slower blockstrings and lack of input.
I firmly believe 2 things in my heart: 1, the only reason most people play mvc3 is because they believe (correctly) that they will be beaten up by Sentinel if they try Mvc2. And 2, the only reason anybody plays Blazblue is because Accent Core can only be played online if you have a psp. If I am wrong in these assumptions, then God help the fighting game community.
Zero254
Posts : 250 Join date : 2011-08-11 Age : 35
Subject: Re: Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3 Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:21 am
I'd say something but you said everything.
I'm buying SKULLGIRLS BABY.
If I didn't buy mvc3 I would probably get this on sale.
But I'll stick with my useless copy unfinished beta test real version released in the same year no spectator edition.
If you didn't get mvc3 and want to try umvc3 then by all means go for it.
But if you got mvc3 and still have bad water in your mouth. I KNOW BLOCKBUSTER IS DEAD BUT FIND A FAMILY VIDEO OR SOMETHING AND RENT IT FIRST KIDS. TRY BEFORE BUY.
CAPCOM ALREADY BURNED YOU ONCE. DON'T PUT YOUR HANDS IN THEIR POCKETS AGAIN. Cause they are on fire.
Besides, the roster is still too small. Don't give me that of but it's a new game. Tekken 6 was a new game done from scratch, no real old assets besides sounds, and it had more characters than the last.
Besides......Dark Phoenix 2a 2a 2a 2a 2a 2a 2a 2a oh where did 50% of your health go? Oh just to my 2a's that combo off anything. Pair that up with button delay online and you have yourself something worth complaining about.
I will rent this game at least to give it a CHANCE.
Actually, Tekken 6 had about 40 characters. UMvC3 is at the 50 character mark.
Regardless, Squire is definitely right. MvC3, by common knowledge, IS TERRIBLE. IT PURELY AND UTTERLY SUCKS!! Despite it being an unfinished beta that conned millions of its fans out of their money, it's still very fun to play with friends, so I actually like it. Just because the game is clearly bad with its constant scrubby dial-a-combos and glitches everywhere doesn't mean it can't be fun at the same time. The concept of a massive crossover alone still charms my interest in the game, but the content itself is just... yeah. I'm skipping this for a far superior game. That game is Tekken Tag Tournament 2.
Spoiler:
Although I'll still buy UMvC3. Just much much later on during the 2nd quarter of 2012.
Zero254
Posts : 250 Join date : 2011-08-11 Age : 35
Subject: Re: Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3 Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:05 am
I'm getting TTT2 as well. But mvc3 still doesn't have more than tk6. And tk is from scratch with a ton of new things and animations.
MVC has way less and still.
Anyways what you said blah blah blah, look out for me in ttt2
Vulcan422
Posts : 46 Join date : 2011-08-04 Age : 32 Location : SoCal
Subject: Re: Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3 Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:44 am
So...how 'bout them Demitri and Kyosuke colors for Vergil?
Subject: Re: Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3 Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:44 am
Don't mean to beat a dead horse, but a friend wanted to play Mvc3 today so I obliged him. How it ends is basically how a lot of the vs series fans have reacted to the game.
Squire Grooktook: Ohi fan You Have RROD is now Online. You Have RROD: yo You Have RROD: mvc3 is much more fun You Have RROD: when you don't play it seriously You Have RROD: ammy best rushdown You Have RROD: you can stop doing F+HHHHHHHH Squire Grooktook: Yup You Have RROD: and quickly re do F+H You Have RROD: instant throw You Have RROD: : D Squire Grooktook: Yeah Squire Grooktook: Are you playing it right now? You Have RROD: yeah Squire Grooktook: Shall I join you? You Have RROD: k You Have RROD: make room n invite You Have RROD: OMG MAKE IT PUBLIC Squire Grooktook: very well one moment You Have RROD: BEST IDEA EVAR Squire Grooktook: Yes Squire Grooktook: I will be a bit rusty Squire Grooktook: Also is phase zero arcana back up yet? Squire Grooktook: I'm still perma banned lol You Have RROD is now Away. You Have RROD is now Online. You Have RROD: no not up You Have RROD: and its ok Squire Grooktook: lol Squire Grooktook: You know what, I got my new capture card today Squire Grooktook: I'm gonna record for the lulz You Have RROD: lol You Have RROD: what card is it Squire Grooktook: ulead You Have RROD: wut You Have RROD: lol Squire Grooktook: gimme just a minute to warm up and get used to the controls again Squire Grooktook: as well as adjust quality a bit You Have RROD: lol You Have RROD: a guy beat me You Have RROD: he using japanese wesker You Have RROD: i sent him a msg saying ''only newfags use japanese wesker'' Squire Grooktook: lol Squire Grooktook: I once beat a guy using japanese wesker Squire Grooktook: no Squire Grooktook: haggar Squire Grooktook: and said he deserved to lose for being an american with japanese haggar You Have RROD: rofl Squire Grooktook: hmmm strange Squire Grooktook: I can't seem to record though I can play on my laptop Squire Grooktook: oh well I'll have to ask zero for help later Squire Grooktook: I'll invite you when ready and record some otehr time You Have RROD: k You Have RROD: also i go beat by some guy who apparently takes the game seriously xD You Have RROD: Danta Zero Hsien-Ko You Have RROD: pro combos Squire Grooktook: you can invite me now You Have RROD: great use of assists You Have RROD: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL You Have RROD: make room You Have RROD: invite me Squire Grooktook: l Squire Grooktook: How's your speed You Have RROD: lol Squire Grooktook: STILL GOT IT You Have RROD: i thought she had to recover on the ground Squire Grooktook: Nope Squire Grooktook: Talon Attack is hilariuos You Have RROD: so i blocked low Squire Grooktook: best move Squire Grooktook: not enough people use her so I'm like the only one who knows ha Squire Grooktook: I will laugh if he picks pheonix Squire Grooktook: I SEE Squire Grooktook: AFFFFFFFFFFF Squire Grooktook: SCREEN * You Have RROD: wut Squire Grooktook: lol Squire Grooktook: that shouldn't have been close Squire Grooktook: I wasn't playing smart Squire Grooktook: fucking screen again You Have RROD is now Away. Squire Grooktook: X-23 Squire Grooktook: She da best You Have RROD is now Online. You Have RROD: i blame doom shit range on crouching normals Squire Grooktook: I know a lot about her Squire Grooktook: I even know a bit about her frames You Have RROD: k Squire Grooktook: I BET I COULD WRITE A GUIDE Squire Grooktook: olol Squire Grooktook: lol hulk Squire Grooktook: use punishable launcher while I have x-factor taskmaster Squire Grooktook: He was x-factoring too but still Squire Grooktook: how can we take it away from someone Squire Grooktook: someone who has no right to control the divine ** You Have RROD is now Away. Squire Grooktook: wow thought you had me for a sec there Squire Grooktook: gg Squire Grooktook: woops Squire Grooktook: I hit triangle You Have RROD is now Online. Squire Grooktook: You can beat this guy lol You Have RROD: that was soooooooooooooooooooo lucky Squire Grooktook: naw Squire Grooktook: no such thing as luck You Have RROD: : l Squire Grooktook: lol Squire Grooktook: anyway you can beat this guy Squire Grooktook: he's predictable Squire Grooktook: just watch out for psma Squire Grooktook: spam* Squire Grooktook: ha Squire Grooktook: GOTTAM You Have RROD: rofl Squire Grooktook: Taskmaster pro anchor and battery You Have RROD: lol loucky You Have RROD: lucky You Have RROD: i didnt want You Have RROD: SRK special Squire Grooktook: lol You Have RROD: super Squire Grooktook: I'm not playing the way I should be with X-23 Squire Grooktook: too cautious Squire Grooktook: relying on dives like Wolverine ha Squire Grooktook: also you deserved to lose for letting that stage get picked *** You Have RROD: luuuuuuuuuuucky You Have RROD: lol Squire Grooktook: You know even if did get the srk it wouldn't have worked anyway rite? Squire Grooktook: I hadn't hit the button yet You Have RROD: i wanted SGS Squire Grooktook: And besides I thought you might try that a third time lol Squire Grooktook: lol Squire Grooktook: raging demon Squire Grooktook: I could have just supered to stay in the air during super flash You Have RROD: true You Have RROD: i love how i do better You Have RROD: with troll team Squire Grooktook: lol You Have RROD: than i do with ''main'' team Squire Grooktook: Brace yourself Squire Grooktook: This is gonna hurt You Have RROD: lol mvc34 You Have RROD: mvc3 You Have RROD: get hit by jab You Have RROD: lose character Squire Grooktook: Yup You Have RROD: well You Have RROD: in mvc2 too but You Have RROD: it actually takes skill in that You Have RROD: : p Squire Grooktook: yes Squire Grooktook: and it depends on the character Squire Grooktook: You have to be pretty badass to one touch death someone with hayato or charly You Have RROD: yeah You Have RROD: in mvc3 You Have RROD: almost everyone cna OTD You Have RROD: can Squire Grooktook: yup Squire Grooktook: I stabbed zero to death with arthur Squire Grooktook: oh well this guy is good Squire Grooktook: not gonna blame the game lol You Have RROD: lol You Have RROD: uh Squire Grooktook: VOICES You Have RROD: don't want to sound like a scrub or anything buuuuuuut You Have RROD: wanna play something else? You Have RROD: i just found out MvC3 is boring after all Squire Grooktook: Sure
*My capture card accidentally left the video menu so I was unable to see anything for 10 or so in game seconds. This happend two or three times as you can see.
**Descend - just keep moving All things shall proceed It's freedom your choosing Preserve our hate Eternalize Awake and arise To be free
***The night time shield carrier stage. Fuck that stage.
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Vulcan422
Posts : 46 Join date : 2011-08-04 Age : 32 Location : SoCal
Subject: Re: Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3 Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:31 am
Why in God's name would anyone in their right mind use Japanese Wesker? He sounds fucking awful in Japanese.
Squire Grooktook
Posts : 173 Join date : 2011-08-13
Subject: Re: Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3 Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:22 pm
Vulcan422 wrote:
Why in God's name would anyone in their right mind use Japanese Wesker? He sounds fucking awful in Japanese.
I know right.
The only excuse for using japanese wesker, dante, or haggar is that you ARE japanese. I'm sorry but if you're american and your using a character who is supposed to be american and has a better voice actor in english and you switch to japanese voice actor then you are a weeaboo. Seriously.
Recolor
Posts : 82 Join date : 2011-08-15 Age : 34
Subject: Re: Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3 Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:46 am
Not even that. Dante and Wesker were always english even in Japan. Haggar? Well, the only game he really "spoke" was FF: Streetwise.
Bobtomia
Posts : 21 Join date : 2011-08-04 Age : 30 Location : California